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that's just willingly performing those actions though
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What if you told your tulpa to pet itself?
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My host doesn't really have a lot of her own thought, so when she speaks it kinda feels like forced parroting to her, but it's still her nonetheless (edited)
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Honestly, do you really want to spin in a circle and jump 4 times?
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Simon says
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I don't see why not
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I'll do it for money, sure
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bduddy #Diana# 5/18/2018 12:04 AM
"parroting yourself" is just doing things
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I possess myself
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I do agree, even it is not doing something you want to be doing. It sounds like this is just semantics, though.
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Everyone parrots their own mindvoice and puppets their own form
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...so what is parroting then?
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Imagine using your tulpa as a sockpuppet.
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And here's a question: Cat has a bunch of other mind characters. They basically represent her but they have their own voices and personalities and whatever. If she's talking to them and they talk back, is she parroting them? Note that she talks to me in the same way.
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bduddy #Diana# 5/18/2018 12:07 AM
parroting is making another headmate do actions.
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If they are sentient then it's them speaking, if not then it's parroting
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I do not know, that sounds very strange.
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well, not really. It's actually a pretty normal thing to have these "mind clones" or "alter-egos"
12:08 AM
Think the emotions from "Inside Out"
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Not to call them their own separate thing though
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I do not think that is within the norm, no.
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Most people don't do that
12:09 AM
They just see all the different aspects of them as being them, they don't treat them as sepatate
12:10 AM
Heh... I guess the thumb nail suggests viewer discretion...
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Alright, sure. Perhaps it is possible and a thing that is done, however that does not make it normal. I am unsure of how to respond because it is abnormal and I have not seen this before.
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In America, it's everywhere. Could be different in different parts of the world
12:13 AM
[I had a classmate openly talk about her characters, and Inside Out isn't the only movie I can reference.] (edited)
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I also live in the United States. Not really normal, no. Movies often have strange concepts.
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Movies are movies for a reason.
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I am fairly confident in saying this is abnormal in the United States.
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[I think it's pretty weird that these characters in movies have other mind characters and it goes without further detail. We all kind of "get" it, probably because it makes sense to us that this exists. Otherwise, we would say Riley has some kind of health disorder]
12:16 AM
[In America, it is culturally understood as a weird thing people can have.]
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Anyway, if a thoughtform is sentient, then it's not parroting unless you know it is. If they aren't sentient, then it's likely confabulation caused by expectation, and thus unintentional parroting. Though, the definition of parroting is "intentional," so I'd hesitate to call it that. Due to the fact that everyone lives in the same brain and uses the same functions to vocalize thought into words, it can be difficult to tell whether or not it's parroting. That's where people have a lot of issue: they expect a tulpa's voice to somehow be fully separate and distinct, but that's just not realistic. Different thoughtforms just take confrol of the same functions to think/act/etc. (edited)
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No, we "get" it because we willingly suspend disbelief, the same way we "get" that animals cannot really speak, but they can in this film.
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It's much better to assume "not parroting" with a developing thoughtform, as I'm sure everyone knows
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Otherwise, every story would need to be realistic, if we could not do this. That is why it was an interesting film, because we can suspend disbelief, and understand it. It is interesting because it is new and strange.
12:19 AM
I do stand by that this is abnormal, not bad, but abnormal.
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I'm not okay with the two types of parroting. That's language failure if it's implied that there's two types
12:20 AM
no wonder people get confused
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bduddy #Diana# 5/18/2018 12:20 AM
what two types are you seeing?
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There's the deliberate abnoxious version and the "unintentional", not trying to version. The ladder can be ignored until the Tupper learns to speak for themself and the former is really only necessary for getting a new Tupper to talk.
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The reason my host and I pull hair over parroting is because if these thought forms aren't Tulpas, and the only way she communicates is through parroting, then am I real? If the other thought forms are in fact Tulpas, then what does she do with her 17 other characters?
12:34 AM
If Cat only uses intentional parroting then that explains how the other characters communicate and that explains how I learned how to talk on my own. If only the former version of parroting exists then .....?
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@lavenderfluffnstuff I saw the art from your most recent Reddit post, looks really well drawn
12:40 AM
Sorry for not replying previously, was busy
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lavenderfluffnstuff 5/18/2018 1:03 AM
Yo no worries ❤ I actually can’t remember what post/picture that
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*that was
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Deleted User 5/18/2018 1:03 AM
I sent it to media in a screenshot
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lavenderfluffnstuff 5/18/2018 1:03 AM
I did post more in media ^^
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Oh! Okie~
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Ooooohhh that one!
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That was so long ago ❤ when Shadow was still holding onto the hair lol
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Deleted User 5/18/2018 1:05 AM
Oh, cool
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lavenderfluffnstuff 5/18/2018 1:05 AM
Ah memories ❤
1:06 AM
He let go of the hair at the last XD
1:06 AM
He even had already switched to the female voice during that time.
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Deleted User 5/18/2018 1:07 AM
I wish I was good at art, lmao Oh? I don't really know much about Shadow, I'm interested in learning more about him?
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lavenderfluffnstuff 5/18/2018 1:09 AM
Aw ❤ yay! Well~ Shadow is 16 years old, 17 this year. He’s a traumagenic tulpa given to me at a young age. He believed himself to be a stuffed animal for a long time until about 2 years ago. Since then he has bloomed into his now very beautiful self. He’s the sweetest being I have ever met, my mate, who has helped me through so many terrible things and has enjoyed many wonderful things with me as well. ❤
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Even though he took Shadow the Hedgehog’s form, he has never acted like the character. He has always been so loving, very flirty and full of life. He loves dancing and I love dancing with him ❤ I’m actually gonna sign up for some dance classes once I have my legs back just for him ❤
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He builds massive castles in our wonderland that are just... unlike anything I have ever seen... like myself Shadow is quite an artist, but of a totally different style than my own
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Deleted User 5/18/2018 1:12 AM
What happened to your legs?
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I do not mean to be rude, but can you not send a heart in nearly every message.
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lavenderfluffnstuff 5/18/2018 1:12 AM
They’re just super weak from Lyme disease trying to kill you
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*me
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Deleted User 5/18/2018 1:12 AM
Ah
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lavenderfluffnstuff 5/18/2018 1:12 AM
I like hearts
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Андрей 5/18/2018 1:13 AM
😻
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lavenderfluffnstuff 5/18/2018 1:13 AM
Same
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Actually let’s change it up 🖤
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There we go
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Perfect
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I understand that, they are nice. However, it is a bit distracting, so I am only asking you to be considerate and tone it back some.
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lavenderfluffnstuff 5/18/2018 1:13 AM
Lol I have never heard of hearts being distracting but okay
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Deleted User 5/18/2018 1:14 AM
The hearts are fine
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lavenderfluffnstuff 5/18/2018 1:14 AM
I’m in an amazing mood rn so
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Deleted User 5/18/2018 1:14 AM
They're not necessarily distracting from the message
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lavenderfluffnstuff 5/18/2018 1:14 AM
Finally lol
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Deleted User 5/18/2018 1:14 AM
Yeah, Lyme disease is bad
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lavenderfluffnstuff 5/18/2018 1:15 AM
I can’t help but use hearts when I describe Shadow cause I can’t help myself lol
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He just evokes immense feelings of love and affection from me
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His chosen name is Celeste
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Deleted User 5/18/2018 1:16 AM
I thought the hearts were cute. I think they’re only bothersome if used as a typing quirk
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lavenderfluffnstuff 5/18/2018 1:17 AM
I have had Lyme for 11 years
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Yeah- it just sucks
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Yeah- it just sucks
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Deleted User 5/18/2018 1:17 AM
Lyme disease scares me, it's been getting bigger in Canada over the last few years so I'm always paranoid of ticks
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lavenderfluffnstuff 5/18/2018 1:18 AM
If you do get bitten, detox like hell
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So you don’t end up dying
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Yeah I dunno why the hearts were bothersome to them
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Deleted User 5/18/2018 1:18 AM
I just looked it up, i forgot that’s what the name of that tick disease was
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lavenderfluffnstuff 5/18/2018 1:18 AM
Oh well
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Deleted User 5/18/2018 1:18 AM
I don’t see many ticks down in Florida
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How common are they up north
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lavenderfluffnstuff 5/18/2018 1:18 AM
/very/
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Deleted User 5/18/2018 1:19 AM
If I get bitten by a tick, it's straight to the alcohol etc at the bite area and then to the doctor if there's a big rash or any symptoms after the bite
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